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77-1/7
3/7/2008
8:49 pm
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Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge? Pope in danger?

linky poo

They are calling it "Taking the Plunge" (hint, hint) Note the very eerie music they play at the very end when they say "threat...." OOOO

linky poo


They expect particles to be no larger than a micron (actually up to 1.3 microns inside the E-Ring is estimated, so they should expect much larger than that this close to Enceladus!), but if they are WRONG Cassini could be put out of business (if hit by a large ice particle).

Only 125 miles away from Enceladus during the "scoop" and as close as 30 miles earlier.

This may be the contrived manuever to "disable" Cassini and make a dive into Saturn then necessary soon.

Just a hunch.

NASA just released an article about previously unknown particles that are revolving around Rhea in a ring of its own, some the size of boulders, so I would expect the UNEXPECTED also at Enceladus.

linky poo


RHEA has a ring with large particles that extend out thousands of miles.


"With all of these pebbles flying around everywhere, it's a wonder Cassini had not been hit ALREADY..."

That may be the rationale to accept the outage.


March 25th is Cassini's next chance to get a major trajectory change from Titan's gravity.

Mar-25-2008 62 Close Flyby (altitude = 1,000 km; 621 mi) of moon Titan.


A "semi-disabled" Cassini could then make a dive in April into Saturn. If not then, then likely before and up to June/July, 2008.

All major speculation.

linky poo

Go to CASSIE program http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/CASSIE/

Looking at the "Cassie" program, if Cassini is "semi-disabled" from the Enceladus venture but they can still control its trajectory then they simply modify the Titan approach on March 25th to make it get a bit closer and send Cassini into a longer loop that takes it above Saturn and headed directly into the north pole using thrusters for fine tune adjustement. They will have no choice but to do a polar plunge at this point, with Cassini in polar incline sequence. The time it would normally take Cassini to make 3 rounds is reduced to one large loop into Saturn mid to late April. Seems plausible.

Ok, enough speculation....for what it's worth.


BTW..still no official word on MISSION EXTENSION for Cassini....official word was supposed to happen last year.

Anonymous Coward
3/8/2008
8:53 am
Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....

pyramid

Anonymous Coward
3/8/2008
8:56 am
Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....

Oooo cool!

alienship
...abduct
...hyper

Anonymous Coward
3/8/2008
8:57 am
Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....

alienship
...abduct
....hyper

Anonymous Coward
3/8/2008
8:57 am
Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....

linky poo

Anonymous Coward
3/8/2008
9:00 am
Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....

bozo

77 1/7 nli
3/8/2008
9:11 am
Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....

Can't seem to sign in this morning, but if you reference the "linky poo" above you will notice that Cassini is scheduled to end it's mission at the same point Galileo did, just prior to the accepted "Star of Bethlehem" site of 2 B.C. Now, of course, I don't believe in the Jesus myth, but there was a RARE series of conjunctions in the area culminating in the rarest at the said point above when Venus overlapped Jupiter literally in June of 2 B.C., 2010 years ago.

77-1/7
3/8/2008
9:19 am
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Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....

The last time Saturn/Cassini crossed the Regulus/Chort/Arcturus line shown on the link, it had a "cosmic ray induced shutdown". It approaches that line again and barely crosses it during late April, early May this year. April 19 is the actually crossing date of the Arc-Reg line, Apr. 16 for the Reg-Chort line.

The way our leaders have been using astrology signs to conduct events (i.e. the creepy Lunar Eclipse Satellite shootdown ritual), I expect something unusual to happen to Saturn/Cassini and/or something on Earth to happen in late April. (15th to 20th).

The Pope visits the U.S. during this time, April 19th marking his 3rd year of reign, and April 16th marking his 81st birthday. He visits the White House on the 16th, and Ground Zero (NY) on the 19th.

77-1/7
3/8/2008
9:25 am
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Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....

linky poo

Pope's body guard just changed from 500 years of Swiss Guard to the Italian guard. This will be in effect for the U.S. visit.

I have a hunch then that some unusual event concerning the Pope will occur, other than just the fact that he's visiting the U.S. at that time and that this event coincides with Saturn/Cassini movements, also the moon is in Virgo at this point as the Pope arrives, and moves into full on the 20th when he exits (moon then in Scorpio just barely)

It is possible that Cassini will be directed into Saturn at this same time for a reason yet to be exactly determined, (maybe from the event listed above, the Enceladus plunge may "disable" it to the point it may have to be sent in to Saturn).

All major speculation....

UPDATE: Recent speculation on "Osama wanting to off the Pope"...is this pre-hype for an event in the U.S?

77-1/7
3/8/2008
9:41 am
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Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....

Cassini is scheduled to end it's mission at the same point Galileo did, just prior to the accepted "Star of Bethlehem" site of 2 B.C. Now, of course, I don't believe in the Jesus myth, but there was a RARE series of conjunctions in the area culminating in the rarest at the said point above when Venus overlapped Jupiter literally in June of 2 B.C., 2010 years ago.

Cassini is still scheduled to end its mission on June 30 this year, despite claims that its mission will be extended. No such official word has come down yet concerning the extension although it was promised several months ago.

I suspect this is because something else is planned for Cassini so there is no need to extend the mission officially, since it will be over within months....or the mission will just be into it's first month of extension when something will go wrong.

77-1/7
3/8/2008
9:49 am
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Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....

Additional notes for April 15 - 20

15- Pope arrives in U.S. at DC, Moon in Virgo near Regulus.

16 - last years VA Tech Massacre, Pope's birthday, Pope's visit to White House.

19 - Waco Massacre, OKC Massacre, and a series of other U.S. disasters, Pope's 3rd year of reign anniversary, Pope's visit to Ground Zero-NY.

20 - Hitler's birtday, and Passover for 2008, Pope's last U.S. visit day, Full Moon in Scorpio.

This Pope is the 111th "Malachy" Pope. If you follow the Malachy template there is either 0 or 1 more Pope to come.

77-1/7
3/8/2008
9:56 am
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http://members.cox.net/saturn-nustar/

for my chart

linky poo

for my Lucifer Project Report

77-1/7
3/10/2008
8:22 pm
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Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

linky poo

This just released. Enceladus images/data from Cassini would be received on Earth (if they were transmitted immediately) at the moment of actual MID-ECLIPSE (Sun-Saturn-Enceladus). Data takes about 69 minutes to get here at this time.

Cassini/Enceladus will dissappear behind the rim of Saturn (as viewed from earth) just before the "plunge" event.

Enceladus will be eclipsed by Saturn for over 2 hours during this time and Cassini will be at the nearest to Enceladus (and 58 seconds later be in the geyser) just as the Sun-Saturn-Enceladus eclipse starts. Cassini will move out of the eclipse area shortly after the plunge.

We've had another Mid-Eclipse encounter recently on Earth, USA-193 was shot down at precisely mid-lunar eclipse.

Parallels:

A. Cassini : USA-193
B. Ice Grain from Geyser/Plume : Missile
C. Enceladus in Eclipse : Earth in Eclipse
D. Saturn, the Eclipsing body : Moon, the Eclipsing body
E. Sun : Sun
F: Cassini Close Approach to Enceladus = 20 deg south +/- : USA-193 Close Approach to Earth's Ship USS Lake Erie = 19.5 north +/-

March 12, at 1:15 PM Pacific time is the encounter with Enceladus, 6 hours short of 21 days after the USA-193 encounter.

Anonymous Coward
3/11/2008
12:26 am
Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

trio

SS
3/11/2008
12:58 am
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Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

wow it has a plume that is amazing ..

 

www.silverstar-academy.com

Anonymous Coward
3/11/2008
1:02 am
Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

alienship

77-1/7
3/11/2008
7:50 am
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Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

Yes, they've known about the strangeness of Enceladus since 2005.

I do believe that IF Cassini is somehow "semi-disabled" in this event it will be a contrived and planned situation. This would explain the long delay and non-call on the official word of the mission extension for Cassini.

For what purpose? To be put in a situation where Cassini will be recommended to make a polar plunge into Saturn while it's still somewhat under control.

If this is not the contrived scenario then one would have to occur before June/July 2008 for any of this Lucifer Project business to be real (at least with the heavy symbology in place).

Hearts in Atlantis
3/11/2008
8:30 am
Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

Cassini...represents the old..

Cassini is the manufactured attempts of man

Saturn is the Old Order...the true order.

The manufactured shall give way..

To the true order...

the oldest order.

Political systems...die..

Orders of men...die..

Economic..political.

The new arise..but alas..

The new...is but old.

The oldest..the original order.

Behold...the Old is reborn...

The old has become new.

All Hail Mighty Babylon.

The Phoenix has risen.


pyramid

SS
3/11/2008
11:33 am
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Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

this is the quetzecoatl comet moon ..

 

www.silverstar-academy.com

Anonymous Coward
3/12/2008
9:00 am
Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

owl

77-1/7
3/12/2008
4:24 pm
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Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

Well, Cassini has gone into the plume and we should know shortly if it was a success.

After a vital systems check they MAY find that there is a problem somewhere on the craft, a "slow leak", or something like that, OR my hunch could be ALL WRONG.

77-1/7
3/12/2008
4:37 pm
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Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

That's a good point, REX, that I forgot to mention.

Of course, if the situation is contrived then also the "damage" can be contrived. To do this, the "vital systems analysis" process would have to be in the hands of a couple of people at NASA who would have the power to make the call that the craft had been compromised enough to abort the mission soon.

This kind of power would be small peanuts to what was required to pull off 9-11, so don't think that the strings CAN'T be in the hands of just a few.

drunken sailor
3/12/2008
4:40 pm
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Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

After a vital systems check they MAY find that there is a problem somewhere on the craft, a "slow leak", or something like that, OR my hunch could be ALL WRONG.


So what you're saying is that if something is wrong then it must mean that your "hunch" is correct.

But if there is nothing wrong then your hunch is incorrect.

But what if it actually encounters a problem that is *not* the result of your hunch? How would you know? Truth is that your hunch is not of much value. So sorry.

 

One pitcher is worth a thousand ears.

77-1/7
3/12/2008
4:49 pm
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Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

One correct hunch isn't of much value, however if several hunches turn out correct, then one may be onto something.

When I started this process in 2003, several hunches since then have turned out to be correct regarding the "Lucifer Project". If they weren't, I would not continue to research it.

In my reports I have said that a situation will be contrived to put Cassini into Saturn this summer, so I'm simply following up on that. When they announced a "dangerous plume scoop", I thought this might be the scenario to do that.

drunken sailor
3/12/2008
4:58 pm
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Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

One correct hunch isn't of much value, however if several hunches turn out correct, then one may be onto something.


It's called coincidence. Make enough guesses and some of them will look right on.

If *all* of your hunches turn out correct then you may be onto something.

If *some* are correct you are just getting lucky from time to time.

 

One pitcher is worth a thousand ears.

77-1/7
3/12/2008
5:00 pm
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Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

Here are a few of the odd events:

Cooper declared in 1991 that such a project existed and at the time the first try was to be Galileo into Jupiter.

Kubrick/Clake/Hyams do a set of movies depicting the same event.

Sept. of 2003, Galileo did go into Jupiter surprising many scientists who in 1991 said NASA would not do that.

Oct. of 2003, a dark carbon spot the size of earth appeared at the latitude that Galileo made its plunge suggesting that the predicted nuclear reaction may have occurred and blast its way through the atmosphere.

Saturn and Jupiter appear at the same location in the sky at the close of their primary missions, this location is the Star of Bethlehem location of 2010 years ago.

The Plutonium mix aboard the crafts turned out to be proven to be fissile when at first they were advertised as not. Pu-238/239 (80%/20% mix)

A polar attempt is predicted for Cassini's plunge. Then it turns out, Cassini is going into Polar incline just before summer or 2008, (is already there).

77-1/7
3/14/2008
10:58 am
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linky poo

Blog by NASA (above) for this event was a nice idea for the public to participate in the discussion.

After reading through all of the BLOGS by NASA employees and the responses by those Scientists, critics, and fans, it seems that there is a HIGH concern for the status of Cassini's health after the event. As one physicist cited "Are you sure Cassini wasn't damaged?....I can't imagine how colliding with particles from Enceladus at this speed would not cause damage.....like a human hitting a car at high speed...."

I am paraphrasing here. Go the the BLOG I referenced above for the actual quotes.

Also NASA scientists keep highlighting the "daring" and "danger" of this fly-by. Not sure if that's to prep us for possible Cassini damage or not.

If nothing else, this event and the cosmic ray shutdown event on 9/11/07 adds fuel to the thinking that "Cassini is getting old now...", added to this they now seem to be intentionally treating Cassini recklessly with this Enceladus fly-by.

FYI

BTW, there has already been cited by NASA one major malfunction on Cassini associated with the Cosmic Dust Collecting Scheme. Go to the main article for that.

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/press-release-details.cfm?newsID=824

SS
3/14/2008
12:03 pm
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there is not going to be a second sun because you do not make suns by crashing a satellite into a remnant of a brown dwarf sorry to inform you all ..

 

www.silverstar-academy.com

Anonymous Coward
3/14/2008
12:08 pm
Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

Oh, ok SS. You've convinced me with your brilliance.

SS
3/14/2008
12:51 pm
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Oh, ok SS. You've convinced me with your brilliance.




here is some research ..

linky poo

linky poo

i suggest doing some study in star formation .. stars do not form by slamming satellites into brown dwarf remnants .. i know you wish it was that easy but unfortunately it is not .. they already slammed one satellite into jupiter and nothing happen .. zilch nada .. just as i told you would happen then you cannot make a star by slamming satellites into brown dwarf remnants ..

 

www.silverstar-academy.com

77-1/7
3/14/2008
1:01 pm
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Re: Cassini to make semi-dangerous dive into Enceladus Geyser March 12....prequel excuse for Lucifer Project plunge?

Ah, SS, you are one of those "Atlantis" and "Ancient Space Station", and "Civilization on Mars" people, which I'm not discounting outright, but....

Of course, you say THESE things are possible, but technology and intelligence can't exist to create a star out of the raw materials?

Okee Dokey....

And when you say nothing happened on Jupiter. THAT is dishonest when you know full well a likely nuclear reaction WAS spotted where Galileo went in.

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